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Lake Ontario Fishing Info
New York State Record Sheepshead !!! 24 lbs 8 oz (Freshwater drum) Caught by Greg Netto In Chaumont Bay, NY on 06/08/05
Fishing Info & Updates Gearing up-Feb 15th 2007 Fishing Update May 29th 2007 Update August 8th 2007 Brown trout tactics-April 15th 2007 Fishing update June 13th 2007 Update August 16th 2007 Walleye opener-April 29th 2007 Fishing update July 4th 2007 Cut bait & VHS August 23rd 2007 Fishing update-May 20th 2007 Hot King action July 18th 2007 The Outrigger/dipsey Approach 9/13/08 Fishing update-May 24th 2007 Unbelievable Shipping Lanes action July 28th 2007 12/21/09 Have You Seen the King-Published in Lake Ontario Outdoors-Spring 2009 By Tony Salerno What happened to the king salmon on the southwestern shores and eastern basin of Lake Ontario in the early summer of 2008? More than a few Charter Captains and salmon anglers were scratching their heads and speculating on what may have caused the dramatic decrease in the salmon harvest this past summer. Unlike this year, the same NY waters of Lake Ontario between 2003 and 2007 produced the best king salmon harvests on record since the beginning of the creel studies in 1985. For the last several years the catches have been phenomenal on the lake and many anglers that were used to limits more often than not, found boxes void of kings back at the dock this summer. Don’t get me wrong, there were anglers in these areas that found active pods of fish and managed to stay on the bite, but for the most part this seemed to be the exception. On the northern shore of Lake Ontario the salmon catch was reportedly at its normal and outstanding level and according to un-confirmed reports the king action on the northwest end of the lake was nothing short of spectacular. According to the 2008 monthly summary reports provided by NYSDEC’s Cape Vincent Fisheries Station, the total chinook salmon harvest rate was down by 44.5 % over 2007 on the US side of the border. Average, and well above average harvests on the west and west central regions of NY would indicate that the poor harvest rates on the east and southeast shore probably accounted for a huge percentage of that decline and in fact was probably significantly higher than the overall 44.5% decline indicates. So what did happen? If you talk to a dozen salmon anglers you will get a dozen explanations for the apparent lack of success. One of the most common explanations heard around the area was the lack of bait. Many anglers stated more than once that they weren’t seeing the bait, or "the bait fish haven’t arrived yet". There is no doubt that salmon certainly pattern movements on bait fish availability. In Lake Ontario the bait fish include shad, alewives and smelt with alewives being the most abundant bait of the three species. Just like their predators, the bait fish seek preferred water temps and have to have food to survive. There has been a steady decline in the bait population on Lake Ontario, but this normally wouldn’t cause a drastic one season drop in the salmon harvest. Also since there was not any reports of a large scale die off of bait fish then the apparent lack of bait would be due to food, water temperatures or a local dispersion of bait fish for other reasons. We can never be certain without tests and studies but a more plausible explanation for lack of salmon on the south and eastern shores of Lake Ontario during the early summer season may have been due to the wind patterns and changes in water temperatures that it caused. Although we get our share of west and northwest winds every season, this year the winds from the northwest were relentless. In fact after retrieving the NOAA buoy data from the National Data Buoy Center, for buoy number 45012, the wind data showed the winds from the west and northwest were over twice as frequent in July of 2008 as they were in July of 2007-a 105% increase! For the last 2 weeks in June of 2008 the frequency was only slightly greater than in June 0f 2007 however, the winds were 2.3 times as strong. In the short term the wind will tend to push surface water and bait toward the windward shoreline, which can be a good area to target when lower success rates have put the angler in a search mode. Because of the wind and its hydrodynamic effect in the water column, a stronger and more consistent wind from the NW would effectively push warm water toward the southwest and eastern shores and displace the colder waters to the Canadian side of the Lake or the NW shore. Under normal climatic conditions deeper lakes begin to stratify shortly after spring turnover, forming stable and well defined layers of water. The upper layer of the stratified lake is called the epilimnion where the mostly circulating and uniformly warm water is located. Also high oxygen saturation, warmer temps and high light penetration make this layer conducive to phytoplankton blooms. The deeper and mostly undisturbed level of a stratified water column where the temperatures are typically very low is called the hypolimnion. Between the upper and lower temperature stratums of the lake is a layer of water called the metalimnion. Most of us know this section as the thermocline. The thermocline is generally defined as the area of the stratified water that exhibits the sharpest temperature gradients or the greatest change in temperatures with increasing water depths. Because all species of fish, both bait and predators, have a preferred temperature range and the thermocline has the greatest range in water temperatures in a relatively small section of water, its easy to understand why the greatest abundance in aquatic life in the offshore zone can be found here. Once established, and under "normal" wind and solar conditions the lake will reach an equilibrium, where the thermocline and stratification is relatively stable. The blue line in figure 1 represents the thermocline under average or normal meterological co nditions. This means the water column is very resistant to mixing. However with strong, consistent winds a "tilt" in the stratification can occur-as shown by the black dashed line in figure 1. This results in higher temperatures at greater depths on the windward shore and much cooler temps at the surface at the opposite shore. It’s hard to comprehend that this can happen on such a large scale as we see on the great lakes, but it does, and this may have been a factor in the early summer salmon harvest in the areas mentioned. It could also explain the absence of bait fish in these areas. Amazingly we were seeing bass water temperatures down to 100’ or more. Although un-confirmed, the worst temperature I heard was 72 degrees F at 120’. Considering the normal or above normal salmon action on the northern and western shores of Lake Ontario the 2008 climatic conditions may be the best explanation for the lack of bait and the severe reduction in the total king harvest. To fill the void in their boxes anglers had to make the switch from spoons and flasher/fly combos to cowbells for lake trout, and if there was an up-side to the poor early salmon season it was the amazing laker action that many anglers enjoyed this year. Because of the great king salmon fishing in recent years the lake trout population was, for the most part, undisturbed. Although the adult lake trout population is actually down more than 50%, likely due to poor survival of stocked yearlings, this year may have been the best lake trout harvest in several years for both average size and numbers. Brown trout were also a "go to" species for many. One fact of life in the biology of salmon is the need for mature kings to make their spawning runs and staging salmon, if they’re out there, will show up regardless of water temperatures and bait availability. At this point the only factors that affect the actual run are man made barriers and extremely low water levels. The good news for southern and eastern shore anglers is that staging kings started showing up around the 3rd week of August and the numbers seem to be comparable to previous years. This makes a strong argument for a dispersal pattern of bait and king salmon toward the Northwest shores due to localized unfavorable water temperatures on the southwest shores and eastern basin. Although the info is based on Lake Ontario, the same climatic conditions can cause drastic changes in bait and salmon patterns in any one of the Great lakes that hold king salmon. If you talk to the more successful captains out there they will tell you that knowing water movement and temperature patterns is the key to consistent action. If anything can be gained from this information it is the importance of how wind can effect water movement and temperatures in large bodies of water. Watching and learning weather and wind patterns and their effects can greatly increase the success rate of the average angler. Sep 13th 2008 The Outrigger Dipsey Approach An effective Great Lakes king salmon tactic By Tony Salerno For years our salt water counterparts have used outriggers to spread out their presentations. Great lakes anglers for the most part have stuck to the use of dipsey divers and planer systems to maximize the spread and the number of poles being trolled. Lately, there is an increasing number of savvy fresh water anglers adding outrigger systems to their arsenal. We all know that the use of dipsey divers is common among king salmon anglers and the dipsey approach by itself is a very effective technique. We also know that when the bite is aggressive 4 downriggers are sometimes more than enough, with little need to deploy additional baits. However when the action slows down, adding 1 or 2 dipsey set-ups on each side of the boat will increase your odds. As we said earlier the use of dipsey divers without an outrigger set-up is very effective and by adjusting the settings and the type of line used the competent angler can run multiple lines off each side of the boat. Just like a planer system, the outriggers increase the spread which increases the number of baits that can be run behind the boat and also reduces tangling in tight turns. Most of us that use planers are targeting fish that are in the top 30 feet of the water column which makes the use of planer boards much less effective for kings. This doesn’t mean you can’t run dipsey divers off the boards. There are a few anglers that have mastered this approach and some actually run dipseys off the in-lines! Obviously release tension is very important. Lets start with some outrigger basics. Outriggers come in fiberglass, aluminum and graphite that range in price from about $159.00 to $5000.00 or more. Taco, Perko, Tigress, Lee’s, Rupp and Sea Choice are just a few of the manufacturers. Outrigger lengths start at 15 feet and go all the way up to 30+ feet. The recommended rigger length is 15 feet for a boat up to 27 feet long. For a boat that is 28 to 34 feet go with the 18 foot poles. The 15 foot riggers usually have a 1 1/8” base diameter while the 18 footers are normally 1 ½” at the base. This is important when buying the base mounts separate. For choosing outriggers keep in mind that the weight differences are substantial with graphite being the lightest-as much as 50% lighter than aluminum and at least 20-30% more in cost when compared to some fiberglass and aluminum systems. The weight differences become extremely important when you start talking about the base mount styles. There are a number of different base mount designs including, gunwale mount, side mount, top mount and mast mount. The gunwale and mast mounts are the strongest which gives the option of running the heavier outrigger poles. The disadvantage of the gunwale mount is the restriction in movement when using the gunwale as a walk-around. The mast mounts can be mounted on the deck or on a step down as well as the gunwales. The side mounts are designed to be mounted on the side of the cabin or flat vertical surface and are recommended for use with the lighter poles. Just as the name implies, top mounts are usually mounted on top of the cabin. These mounts are strong but access can be an issue on some of the top mount designs. All mounts are either fixed position or adjustable in angle/elevation. For most of the fixed position mounts the outrigger pole and base must be removed from the mounting bracket, turned and re-installed in the mounting bracket. The base is usually a stainless steel tube with an angle bent into the tube. Turning this tube provides 2 positions in the poles-either stowed vertically or deployed horizontally. The other base mounts are adjustable with 2 or more angle settings and can be changed without removing the poles. The mast mounted brackets can be stowed (vertical), deployed (horizontal) or set at 45 degrees. Other equipment required is a pulley or glass ring, a shock chord, outrigger releases, float stops (optional) and the halyard or rigging line. The shock chord has a clip or loop at one end for attaching somewhere on or near the gunwales and usually come as a unit with the pulleys or glass rings attached. All of the components listed can be purchased separately or as a complete rigging kit. As with all outrigger accessories there are several types of releases to choose from varying in quality and price. Rubber bands are still used and are the least expensive choice. Finding the right strength is important and may take some experimenting. Also over time UV rays will weaken rubber bands. Other release designs include the clothes pin type or some form of clip release design. When running multiple lines off a single halyard you will need a release that slides on the halyard and locks into place when positioning the bait line for deploying out on the rigger halyard. When using a fixed position release, a complete second halyard rig can be run on the same outrigger pole with the halyard exiting out of the middle eye or roller of the outrigger. For stringing the poles a 300 pound test braided, UV protected dacron line is a good choice for the halyard. To string the outrigger ensure the pole is in the fully extended position. Run the line through the eyes of the pole, through the releases and through the pulley or glass ring. The two ends of the line can be tied together with the float stops mentioned earlier. These floats look like a bobber and will of course act as a stop at the outer eye of the outrigger pole when deploying lines. The releases must be positioned between the stops and the pulley. Before cutting the halyard line to length and tying the two ends at the float stop, make sure the line will be somewhat taught when the lanyard is attached to the cleat. Another method would be to rig the line first and then position the cleat on the gunwales. The outrigger poles need to be mounted in their bases and in the deployed position to determine proper line length and rigging. Once the lanyard is attached to the cleat the rigger line forms a loop from the pulley to the first eye of the outrigger pole through all the eyes and out the outer eye and back to the pulley. The system functions like a retrievable clothes line on a pulley system. As with outrigger equipment and techniques, you will hear as many recommendations for using dipsey divers as there are anglers using them. We will cover only one of many approaches. For dipsey choices try the time tested Luhr Jenson product in sizes #0 or #1 or the new line of Walker dipseys. The magnum sizes not only get you deeper but are the better choice for rough water conditions. On the outer rod set a #1 dipsey at 3 or 3.5, for the maximum horizontal distance, on a rod with 30# mono or a slightly heavier braided line. Run your bait of choice out 175 to 275 feet behind the release, loop your line and attach it to the release. The release is locked onto the outrigger line and the bait is deployed half way out on the rigger pole by pulling the outrigger line between the pole and the pulley. On the next rig try using wire line with the dipsey set at 1.5 to 2 and drop the bait back up to 175 feet. This will get the bait deeper and shorter than the outer bait. Attach this rig to the second release and run the rigger line out so that the first release and connector is at the end of the outrigger pole. This positions your second rig near the middle of the outrigger pole. Making some adjustments in settings and drop back until the right combination is found can be worth the effort. If your running four rods on each side of the boat the next two baits can be run off the downriggers and for a greater spread hook up a winger off the side downrigger. With the other side of the boat rigged the same way a “V” pattern is formed with the outer baits further behind the boat and shallower with a deepening pattern as the sets move in to the downriggers. For anglers without downriggers a dispsey set at 0 to run straight down is another option. There are 2 advantages in using the outriggers for dipsey fishing. First and most obvious is the increase in horizontal separation of baits and the number of poles that can be run. Separating baits horizontally covers more of the water column and reduces chance of tangling in turns. This horizontal separation also helps to reduce the chance of screaming kings running through other lines. The second advantage is the close position of the outrigger line to the water surface. Dipsey anglers quickly discovered that the closer the rod tip is to the water surface the better the dipsey track. Its like retrieving a deep diving stick bait. If you hold the pole over your head the bait tries to track up, and holding the rod tip at the water surface will allow the bait to dive better. The advantages of a more consistent track become obvious in tight turns and the lower profile also reduces wind drag on the line. A stiff crosswind on the windward side of the boat can produce enough force to significantly reduce the distance the dipsey will track away from the boat. Some dipsey actually anglers adjust their rod holders so that the rod is pointing down toward the water, trusting the tension and drag of the dipsey to hold the rod in the rod holder. There are an increasing number of rod holders now on the market specifically designed to maximize rod reach and get that rod tip low. Also the choices in equipment and techniques can be confusing to the beginner. The best advice here is to start simple. Even if your not ready to make the transition to outriggers at least give dispey trolling a try. There is nothing more exiting than the massive force of a king salmon slamming a dipsey rig. Good luck on the water! Aug 23rd 2007 Cut Bait & VHS As most of us have heard the latest issue affecting our Lake Ontario fishery is the recent discovery of VHS in various species of fish in our area. The virus, viral hemorrhagic septicemia has taken a toll on a number of fish in our waters including, muskellunge, freshwater drum and round gobies. VHS, similar to human Hemorrhagic Fever, has a very destructive effect on the internal systems of fish and causes internal bleeding and in many cases death. Other Waters in New York State that have tested positive for the disease include, Lake Ontario, Lake Erie, Niagara River, St Lawrence River and Conesus lake. There are a number of ways the virus could have found its way into our waters and most explanations are plausible but as far as I know still speculative. As a matter of fact it will be nearly impossible to determine exactly how the virus was first introduced into the area. The only course of action we have right now is to react to the existence of the virus and some how try to prevent other undesirable organisms from entering our ecosystems. The first know appearance of VHS was in 2005 when it was found in freshwater drum and muskellunge. One of the explanations for its existence is that it may have been introduced through one or more organisms from the ballast tanks of commercial ships moving through the seaway. Just like the zebra muscle the round gobie, a know carrier of the virus, probably hitched a ride on the big boats and found a new home in the Great Lakes. Because the round gobie and VHS made their appearance at approximately the same time it is very easy to blame the shipping industry. According to Dick McDonald, a DEC Fisheries Biologist out of the Watertown office the virus could also have been introduced through contaminated bait fish. Any number of different types of bait fish both dead and alive could have been the source. One possibility would be frozen bait that many anglers in the area have used for years. The freezing process alone will not kill all viral and bacterial organisms and the pacific herring has been tested positive for VHS. Tom Davis from Rhys Davis LTD, said that the herring cut bait that they produce are frozen only and not chemically treated in any way. This provides another possible explanation for the existence of VHS. However, one of the problems with this theory is that the same cut bait has reportedly been used in inland in other states waters with virtually no apparent effect on the ecosystems. As anglers we need to be aware of the new regulations governing the use of bait fish in New York State. For instance bait fish are classified into 3 categories-uncertified, certified and preserved. Under the preserved category the dead bait must have been preserved by a means other than freezing alone. For a live or dead bait fish to be certified it must be tested for, and found free of VHS and a number of other pathogens listed in regulations. The process starts with the appropriate identification and collection of the species to be tested. This process can only be initiated through the specific agencies listed eg, American Fisheries Society pathologists, fish health inspectors and some veterinarians. Currently there are only 2 labs in the US authorized by NYS and DEC to conduct the tests. The first is Micro Technologies in Richmond Maine and the second at the Animal Disease Diagnostic Lab in the State of Washington. Once certified free of the pathogens the “lot” must be accompanied by the NYS Health Certification Report. The whole process can take 3 weeks and cost $700.00 to $1000.00 per lot. Bait shop owners may sell certified, uncertified, or preserved bait. However bait cannot be sold as certified if uncertified bait is available in the same shop. Selling uncertified bait comes with severe restrictions. First the retailer must have a DEC permit to get it transported to his shop. Second the bait can not be transported overland by the buyer. So to be able to use the uncertified bait it must be within walking distance of the water in which it will be used and it must have also come from the water where it will be used. To use certified bait the angler must keep the receipt that was issued when it was purchased. The receipt must indicate certification, the name of the seller, date of sale, the species of bait fish and the quantity. After 7 days the bait fish can no longer be used legally and the receipt becomes invalid. What does all this mean to the average angler and New York State sport fishing? The first thing that comes to mind is the threat to the sport fishing industry by reducing populations either directly or by effecting the food chain that would of course also eventually effect sport fish populations. Of immediate concern is the obvious lack of our favorite cut bait. Many Lake Ontario salmon anglers are accustomed to pegging “Rhys Davis” cut bait to their bait heads and dragging them behind flashers during the staging or pre-staging periods prior to the mature salmon making their spawning runs up the NY rivers and streams. The lack of the Pacific herring strips produced by Rhys Davis LTD is of course due to the new NYS DEC emergency regulations imposed in the fight against VHS in our ecosystems. Because the herring is frozen and not processed in a way that would assure the elimination of the virus, the bait does not meet the requirements for properly processed bait fish. Therefore under part 10 and part 188 of the New York State DEC emergency regulations this bait can not be transported or sold in NY for use as bait. After talking to Tom Davis of the Rhys Davis Company, don’t expect them to certify their cut bait any time soon. Tom told me that they won’t test a bait fish that has already been tested positive for VHS. This process would also probably be economically unfeasible because of the cost of testing, add this to the fact that every lot has to be tested and the time that it takes, it just doesn’t make economical sense. Also, it is not practical in most cases to expect a company to change the way they process their product. Meeting New York State’s new regulations would require a complete change in the way Rhys Davis processes their bait. This would require additional chemicals or ingredients and would also require a change in the packaging to include stating the way in which it was processed. Of course comprehensive testing has to be part of the process to determine any change in bait consistency, durability, scent and overall effectiveness. All is not lost! As anglers we’ve had to adapt to not only the natural cyclic changes but also to the sometimes catastrophic changes caused by introducing an undesirable form of plant or animal life into our aquatic ecosystems. Although bait shops and distributors have been severely affected by the regulations and in some cases devastated, they do have whole bait and cut bait for sale. Don’t be afraid to try the whole bait. In some parts of the Great Lakes whole bait rigs are the norm and they will work. Anglers will have to purchase whole bait heads to use these baits. Another method would be to cut your own whole bait into cut bait strips and use them with the cut bait teasers that are already part of many anglers tackle boxes. This is not as easy as it sounds however. For one reason or another, the flesh on the Atlantic herring is soft which makes it very difficult to fillet into strips. Cutting the whole bait is a little easier when attempted frozen. The time between harvesting the herring and processing it and also the processing method itself can affect the consistency of the flesh. The Atlantic herring may also have a naturally softer flesh than the Pacific herring. As I said earlier, cut bait is available but there has apparently been a durability issue with bait falling apart after very little time in the water. To increase the durability of the bait, Tom Davis recommends soaking the bait strips in a brine solution. Using a cooler designed for holding a six pack of soda or beer add a quart of water and approximately 2 cups of pickling salt. After all the salt is dissolved into the solution add the bait strips and soak for a couple hours. Place the cooler into a freezer until needed for fishing. The solution should not freeze if the right amount of salt added. If there is too much salt added then all of it will not dissolve. If there wasn’t enough salt the solution will freeze. After fishing place your bait back into the cooler and return it to the freezer. Another method would be to lightly salt herring strips between sheets of wax paper. Allow enough time for the bait to absorb the salt and place in a freezer until needed. For those salmon anglers who refuse to convert to the new cut bait there is always the flasher/fly, dodger fly combos, J-plugs, and even spoons in the magnum sizes-all still effective in the staging periods. Aug 16th 2007 Our last trip was at the finger off Stoney Point Lighthouse on the 10th of Aug. We caught 1 nice king running 333' of wire on a mag dispsey with a NK 28 in the purple slash pattern. There has been some good catches of lakers on the SW end of the finger in 115' to 120' of water. We did hear of a few more kings taken in the trench, including a couple with pronounce kypes-a definite sign of staging! Aug 8th 2007 Although we haven't been out to the shipping lanes since the 27th we had reports of much slower action. The finger off Stoney Point continues to produce a few salmon and there were reports of a couple kings caught in the trench. Also some great lake trout action can be found along and just off the finger. Still no significant reports of walleye.
July 28th 2007 Some charter captains have stated that they have never seen it so good in the shipping lanes!!! The king salmon bite continues to be as hot as it gets. On our last trip to the wall in the lanes we limited out on king salmon by 10:15 AM. Of the 6 kings we hauled in 5 were in the 22-28lb range and one was a skipper that we released. The hottest bait was a purple delmation Northern King spoon in the NK 28 size fished with 105' of cable out. We caught half of the fish on our GLP mooneye spoons in the silver/ladderback and silver/glo colors. The best temps were found at 105 to 115' and we fished the 110-120 contour on the wall. GPS speed was 2.2 to 2.3 MPH. On thursday the 26th we only caught 1 skipper and quit at 9:00 AM due to 6 foot waves. We did get reports of limits on thursday. We had one report that a GPS speed of over 3.0 MPH had to be maintained to get a down speed in the 2.2 MPH range-due to heavy wind and strong currents on the wall. July 18th 2007 On the last trip to the lanes (July 5th) we went 3 for 4 on kings. The hot spoons were Black/glo/silver and black/silver ladderback with small flashers 60" ahead of the spoons. One king came on an Atomik misery fly 20" behind a flasher. All 3 kings were 22-25 lbs. We stuck to the 115' contour and ran 95-105' of cable. Our boat speed was 2.3 to 2.4 MPH. On the 16th I went out solo to the small wall off Stoney Point lighthouse and went 1 for 3, boxing a 24 lb king. This king came on the black/silver ladderback behind a 9" flasher. The depths an speed was the same pattern that we used on the last trip to the lanes. Both walls have provided great King action during the last couple weeks. July 4th 2007 The salmon have arrived at the shipping lanes! For the last 2 weeks the action has been outstanding with a number of limits reported. Unlike last year there have been more "jacks" taken but the overall harvest seems to be as good as it was last summer-so far. Flasher fly combos as well as pure spoon patterns are working well. The consistent spoon color has been Black/silver. The depths that are working seem to be at the 100-125' contour on the wall with 75-95' of cable out. Don't be afraid to get away from the flow of traffic to sample the deeper water next to the wall. June 13th 2007 We don't have much to report this week except our trip to the shipping lanes today. I went out in my neighbors boat and we set up a spoon and flasher/fly pattern. After about an hour on a west troll along the wall we hooked up on and boxed a 20 LB king. The salmon came on a green flasher with an Atomik misery fly. We had one more rod bounce and that was it for the day. We saw tons of bait on the east end of the wall and nothing on the west end. We heard that Bill Saiff III limited out on lake trout in the lanes last week. Check out his web site for some great updated fishing info May 29th 2007 There were reports of good pike action on the 25th and 26th. Very little walleye action was reported. We picked up one 8 pound walleye off the head of Pillar Point fishing with shallow stick baits in 60 feet of water. Based on smallmouth action we are looking at another great bass season. No reports were available for Sunday and Monday the 27th and 28th. This morning Lake Ontario is mirror calm again and we are looking at another high pressure system. May 24th 2007 The walleye fishing was slow Monday the 22nd and yesterday the 23rd. With a high pressure system Monday morning conditions more more favorable for a blue bird. The morning started with a frost here on Point Peninsula. The wind was still and the water was mirror calm. Fishing was tough for us and those charters that were fishing the area with a few fish caught later in the day with wind conditions increasing in the afternoon. . Although we don't have a report for Tuesday, on Wednesday the conditions were nearly identical as they were on on Monday with few fish caught. Water temps were consistent at around 54 degrees early in the week, probably warming up significantly with air temps near 80 yesterday the 23rd. We don't have any info on Black River Bay at this time. Also we don't have a brown trout update. May 20th 2007 The walleye fishing in Chaumont Bay was nothing short of fantastic this week with a number of limits reported. From what we heard the bite was slow to start this year but unlike last year it has picked up tremendously. Early in the week we started getting reports of some good catches with a number of limits caught in the last 2-3 days. There was a pattern to the bite as it progressed throughout the morning during the last 3 days but anglers seemed to have their own hot lure types and colors. What this means is that the fish were not too particular in what they wanted to eat-although you won't convince the anglers. For us the pattern was blue/silver/orange thundersticks in the 4" size. This is one step down in the sizes that we usually use. As the boat numbers increased the sonar marks started to move down in the water column. When this happened we went to deep diving stick baits and stinger spoons with drop weights in the 1-2 ounce sizes. Although we this worked for us, the shallow stick baits continued to produce fish. Big catches of northern pike, and smallmouth bass (opens 3rd Saturday in June) were reported and the brown trout action was also good.
April 29th 2007 Walleye opener Opening day of the NYS walleye season is Saturday the 5th of May. I haven't heard for sure but I believe we can safely say that the water temps reached that magic 42-43 degrees and the females have spawned and moved out into the bays. Our water temps around Chamount Bay, and Black River Bay areas hovered around the 40 degree mark for a few days before we hit the 60's and 70's for air temps. These long awaited higher temps probably brought the water temperature up to the mark needed to trigger the spawn. What this means for those anglers that will be on the water on opening day is that our focus will be in and near Black River bay-at least for the most part. In the big waters like we have here on the eastern end of Lake Ontario, walleyes are as much pelagic as they are structure oriented. Post spawn walleyes will be looking for schools of bait fish to feed their voracious appetites. This doesn't mean the walleyes are not structure oriented. Many anglers swear by trolling over humps, shoals and other structure. Others will look for a specific water depth to run their baits. Whatever approach you choose a good place to start would be Black River Bay. There is no secret when it comes to baits. Most anglers will use some form of stick baits in the 4 to 4.5" sizes. For which stick bait to use you will find a wide range of preferences. Each angler has his or her favorite brand and any of the big names like; Storm Thundersticks, Smithwick, Rebel, Bomber, Rapala, Reef Runner will work. Good color choices include, black/chrome, blue/chrome, black/chrome/orange, blue/chrome/orange, perch patterns etc. A hot new bait on the market for this year is the "MADFLASH" produced by Storm Thunderstick. Whether you run the big boards or the in-lines try running 2-3 baits off each side of the boat. If you have enough licensed anglers on board you can try 4 lines on each board or run a couple spoons shallow off the riggers and 100-125' back for that occasional brown trout. Separate the spread by at least 50' and make the outer lines your longer leads (distance of the bait behind the boat). Bring the inner lines in closer as you come in toward the boat. For instance, your outer lines may be set back to 275', with the middle line at 200' and the inner line at 125'. This makes it a little easier for a fish hooked up on the outer lines to clear the inner lines without tangling. This is another area where anglers disagree. The distances mentioned here are an example only, some may go out to 275' or more and some start at less than 200' for the outer line. Experiment! and do what works for you. Lets hope this year is better than last year! Good luck on the water. April 15th 2007 Brown trout tactics Well its mid April and the brown trout bite should be hot and heavy. However, winter's grip on the northeast has been relentless and with another winter snow storm pounding us, the brown trout fishing will be delayed for many anglers. We did get some reports of a good bite a week ago but the action will slow down a lot until the current nor'easter blows through. The forcasters are calling for a slight improvement in temps with some form of precip continuing for the next few days. Who said it was spring? For early spring browns its a good idea to try fishing near one of the numerous creeks, or rivers that flow into Lake Ontario. The water temps from spring run-off are usually a couple degrees warmer than the Lake water. This attracts bait fish and of course the trout and salmon follow them into the shallows. Also, steelhead are making their spring spawning run. Some of the hottest fishing sometimes occurs after a warm rain sometimes producing a silt plume on the shoreline right at the mouth of the creek. This stained water flows down the lake shore either with the current or wind. This increase in action may is due to the warmer water, increased flow of nutrients and food and provide a great visually defined area that anglers can zero in on when trolling or casting. Mixed bags of steelhead, lake trout, cohos, kings, and the occasional atlantic salmon are common this time of year. Downsize! For early spring browns anglers normally go with smaller baits. Try spoons and stick baits in the 2.5" to 3.5" range. Any of the stick baits like, Rapala, Thunderstick, Smithwick, and Challenger will work as well as Stinger, NK, Cleo, and Blade-runner spoons. Favorite colors include, blue/chrome/orange, black/chrome/orange, blue/chrome, orange, green/chrome, etc. The Michigan Stinger spoons in the emerald shiner and alwive pattern have been hot patterns in the past. You will get as many favorites as there are anglers but the choices that we have listed will get you started. If you are trolling, using planer boards will help put more fish in the boat when your targeting browns. Long-lining directly behind the boat will work but this limits the number of lines you can run and you will see more results with the boards due to the spooky nature of brown trout. We run at least 3 lines off the big boards on each side of the boat spacing the baits at least 50' apart. Don't miss the action in close to shore. We sometimes run the boards right into 5' of water, depending on conditions. Also most of our baits are running in the top 10' of the water column in 5' to 40' of water depth. For shore-bound anglers try casting a blue/chrome cleo off one the many piers or jetties adjacent to creeks and rivers along the lake shore. Sodus Point, Fair Haven, Selkirk Shores are great choices. For those that want to wade off shore a little, put on the waders and try casting off Maxwell creek in Sodus Point. Shore anglers should also take advantage of that discolored plume!
Feb 15th 2007 Gear up Anglers! The start of another season on Lake Ontario is just around the corner. We are in our spring transition here in Central and Northern New York. The ice fishermen are still braving the receding ice on the bays and we are still seeing the occasional steelhead fisherman on some of the Lake Ontario tributaries. The sights and sounds of spring are abundant with the red wing black birds singing and our mallards and Canada Geese coming home. To the serious anglers and those suffering from cabin fever this means only one thing-its almost time. If you are like us, its time to replace all the lost or worn tackle and change the line on the reels-how about getting the boat in for a pre-season check. These are all great ways to deal with the late winter effects of cabin fever but remember, treat the disease and not the symptoms. You have to get out of the house sportsmen and women! Try going to one of the many Sports shows in NY. The first one of the season is the Northeastern Sport Show in Syracuse at the end of January, followed by the Central NY Boat Show both held at the fairgrounds in Syracuse. The next event for outdoor enthusiasts is the Rochester Sport show in early March and the Buffalo Show (Hamburg Fairgrounds) a few days later. In the Watertown area we have the Expo and Outdoor Show at the end of March and the Clayton Boat Show in mid April. For those who need to wait until ice out the first fishing of the season is the bullhead run. All of the bays off Lake Ontario offer excellent early spring bullhead fishing. This is a great time to get out of the house and take the kids fishing. Action can be non-stop at times and this certainly helps when introducing a youngster to the fishing experience. April 1st is special in NY for 2 reasons-one, it’s “all fools day” and two, it’s the opening day of statewide trout season. NY offers some of the best stream trout fishing in the Northeast. With the Lake Ontario steelhead fishing winding down anglers can turn to the endless streams such as tributaries of the Finger Lakes or streams in the Catskills or Adirondacks. Don’t forget about the NYS DEC stocking program. Those pellet fed hatchery fish may be easy to catch but it offers action and they are the tastiest fish swimming in NY. Remember these fish are raised to be released and caught and don’t have a high winter survival rate anyway. Look for our next update in a couple weeks. We will be talking Lake Ontario Brown trout tactics. Good luck on the water!
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